I was a resident in Fazakerley Cottage Homes, Liverpool, and we have now have an Association for ex-residents and their offspring. I am the editor of the Association Newsletter and I have been sent two articles which were photocopied from "The Liverpool Review". The articles are dated May 10, 1890 and May 17, 1890. Can you please inform me if "The Liverpool Review" still exists? If it does I would want to ask for permission to print the articles.
I am planning to print these articles in two forms. One is a a stand-alone publication as an A5 booklet, for sale to members of the Association, who will be attending our reunion on Saturday, June 20th 2009, in order to help raise funds to keep our Association going. The other plan is to serialise it in our Newsletter, which is sent out free to members about four times a year. I am wondering if I would be infringing any copyright if I were to produce these publications with
the said articles. I wonder if someone in your Society could comment on anything I have put in this message.
May I take this opportunity to thank you in advance.
Regards,
Edward Schleising.
eddie.schleising@dsl.pipex.com
Hello Eddie,
ReplyDeleteI am not sure that it does.
As a rule of thumb if the article is more than 70 years old it can usually be used, but you are best checking that someone does not still own the copyright. Hopesomeone can help.
Rob
LHS
Hi Eddie, my grandfather, Edward Taylerson was put in the cottage homes - Fazakerly Cottage Homes number 3 a month after his fathers death in November 1899 - put in there by his uncle! (how wonderful the extended families were in those days - NOT) he remained there until 1906 where he went to a boys training ship - HMS Indefatigable i think - i am looking for any infomration that anyone may have for my mum who is now 81 years old. Please contact me on paulamcnaughtonmuir@hotmail.com
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I Joan and my brother Bill and my sister Anne Worthington where all residents at Fazakerley Cottage Homes on and of over the years 1957, 58, 60 and 1961 we stayed in no 19 then I was in no 8 and Bill no 9. Anne was in the glass house at the front for a while untill she was old enough to join Bill and I in no 8 Mrs Avn Zyl was house mother Mrs Johnson worked there to a boy called George Worthington no relation lived there too also a guy called David he had a younger brother and a sister in no 8 with us I live in South Africa now email joanvdijk@gmail.com
ReplyDeleteFrom Deborah Teazis (Cullen)
ReplyDeleteMy dad and his brothers and sisters, 7 of them in all were put in to Fazackerley Cottage Homes in 1944.
My dad has not had contact with any of his siblings since then, he was 16 months old at the time of entering the cottages.
Now at 70 years old, he for the first time wants to talk about those days and try to make contact with his siblings if they are still alive. My dad still lives in Liverpool, and I live in Australia.
Does any one know were I can get info on what happened to the children from the 1940s to 1955.
Are there any records available of the names and D.O.B. of the kids. My dads name is Alan Cullen, his siblings are: Alex, Tommy, John, Joan, Lilly and Joseph Cullen.The parents were Lilly Lynch and Jimmy (James) Cullen.
My email is: deborahteazis@bigpond.com
Any help would be greatly appreciated, i would like my dad to have some sense of closure. Thank you......
Dear Deborah,
ReplyDeleteas someone who undertakes oral histories I have often experienced requests of people similar to you father. It must pain him greatly to not have seen his siblings, something I could not imagine. The records for Cottage Homes are probably in the Liverpool Record Office, but may have restrictions placed on them because of the sensitive nature of their contents. However your father and siblings do have the right to know of one another's existence and something that must be facilitated as soon as possible.
I would suggest you contact Banardo`s or the Salvation Army or Nugent Care Service who may be able to remove an obstacles you will probably encounter trying to source this information directly.
I have listed some contact details below and wish you the best of luck in your endeavours.
If I can be of any further help please do not hesitate to contact me.
Regards
Rob Ainsworth
Liverpool History Society
Web Site:http://liverpoolhistorysociety.org.uk
Liverpool History Society Questions:
http://www.barnardos.org.uk/
http://www.nugentcare.org/
http://www2.salvationarmy.org.uk/uki/www_uki.nsf
To all of you with connections to the Fazakerley Cottage Homes, Liverpool. Please note that the Fazakerley Cottage Homes (Liverpool) Association, are holding their annual reunion Saturday 19th June 2010. 12 noon-8pm. at the Acorn Centre, located on the site of the former FCH, Now named New Hall campuss, Longmoor Lane, Fazakerley, Liverpool. As chairman of the Association I invite you to join us at the Associations annual highlight.
ReplyDeleteFor further information please contact me at geoffs@btinternet.com
Hi Geoff, i have told my dad about your renunion night and hope he will attend - His name is Alan Cullen and he was at the FCH from about 1945 to 1951 ish - does he need to register or just turn up. Thank you - Deb Teazis.
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Hello, I am letting you know know that my brothers in laws used to live in the cottage homes, namely Ken Mensah, Ray Mensah, Clifford Mensah. Upon discharge Ken went to live in the Midlands whilst Ray and Clifford remained in Liverpool.
ReplyDeleteJessie Hoyle born c1894, and her brother Charles Hoyle born c1892 were in West Derby Union Cottage Homes in 1901.
ReplyDeleteTheir brother John Hoyle was also in a Home, [ he always thought it was Whiston Workhouse] but I cannot find either his birth or baptism.
He is not on the 1901 Census.
Their father was a butcher by Trade.
In the 1914/18 War John [Jack] Houle was baptised by the Army, as they could not find his Birth registration.
Anyone any ideas please?
Joan
i to spent some time at the homes along with my brothers david and micheal sisters sheila and sandra.sandra beieng the baby at 8 months she was addoptedand at 17 found us but had been named sue which is what we call her now we lost contact again for over 20 years but are in touch now thankfullyshe is 53 now and i 61 we were there in 57/58 i was 8 had remember holding on to sue as a baby and wouldnt let go of her i still cry now at the memory.i suppose its why i am so protective now towards all my sons and 11 grandchildren and have spent my life supportig childrens causes.
ReplyDeleteI have juts discovered three family members who were at the FCH between 1904- this was when there mother died, there father died 2 yrs later so maybe they didnt eneter until his death and they were still there in the 1911 census aged 9,12 and 14. Was it usual for them to keep te children together? . there were two boys and a girl. They did have family outside of the homes, my nan was one of there older sister who lived with the eldest sister wh was married, and they also had a married older brother, plus dozens of aunts and uncles, hard to belive the youngest were placed in homes, bit sad isnt it.
ReplyDeleteWhere might I find more information on these three children?
Hello, my name is Keith Ashton and my father was in the homes as a child round about 1920 but I don't currently have the correct dates. His father passed on and his mother was unable to cope with Dad (Reuben Ashton) or his 7 siblings. Dad did tell me that he had tasks to undertake like carrying buckets of water and at Christmas he thought himself very lucky to be given an orange (yes, just one) and a hen's egg and that was all he got.
ReplyDeleteI was in the Fazakerly Cottage Homes in about 1961 or 1962. it was the first time my siblings and i had been away from our parents. My Mother was ill in hospital and my Father couldn't cope with us. I was 7 or 8 at the time and i was placed there with my brother and 2 sisters.
ReplyDeleteWe were looked after by 2 old ladies, (I can't remember their names),who were very strict. I had a birthday shortly after being sent there, they did a bit of a special tea for me, but we were not allowed to talk at the table,we ate in silence. I remember my brother being sick because they made him eat tinned spaghetti which he hated, then they shouted at him for being sick! Then said "he couldn't have his cake either" as punishment.
I remember being forced to wear shoes that were way too small for me as they didn't have any to fit me, and they wouldn't buy any, as the place was due to be closed. I subsequently ended up with deformed toes (hammer toes,i think they're called).
The only positive memory i have of the Homes is that one of the ladies taught me to embroider. I used to sit at her feet while she taught me different stiches.
I've shut out a lot of the bad memories from my childhood, which is probably why i can't remember their names or any of the other children that were there at the time.
I spent most of my childhood in care being passed from pillar to post. However, as my sisters and i have always stated "If you can survive our lousy childhood, you can survive anything". It made us stronger, more independent,we relied on each other; even when we got split up.
my elder brother and siter and me stayed at the FCH. My mother gave me a sixpence and hid it in my right shoe. I was stripped when she left and the sixpence found and confiscated. I vividly remember being physically hit by bigger brutes and my stay at the FCH has left a lasting inprint. None of my children will ever be sent or left in anything resembling the FCH.
DeleteI am very moved by these stories, I courted someone in Fazakerley between 1961-64 and never knew these homes existed.
ReplyDeleteHello my name is Bill, I spent all of my young life in F.C.H. from 1930 to 1944, then sent to a Working boy's home down town Liverpool until I found work and a place to live. My 5 older sisters were also there. that knowledge was kept from me untill i was about 9years old. After leaving the Homes I just put it all out of my head and carried on with my life. Ihave 3 grown Children of my own and 4 grandchildren. But just like others who lived there, out of the 500 children that were there i can only count a handfull that I realy knew.
ReplyDeleteGood evening,
ReplyDeleteI would very much like to know who sent the children to Fazakerly Cottages in the late 1800s.
Were they orphans from the Workhouses or from children’s homes?
Thank you for your time.
June Penfold
I have discovered that my father was admitted to F.C.H in about 1937. His name was Vivian Potts (he died in 2005 aged 77, although he later called himself John. I think he may have been in No.7. I don't know how he came to be a resident there as his mother had him until age 10. He later went to a 'working boys home' in Shaw street. He had a 'Hare lip' (clef palette) which may have been repaired by then. If anyone still remembers him I would love to hear from you.
ReplyDeleteMy Dad lived at the cottage homes between 1929 and 1939 (approx). (from the ages of 5 - 15). His name is Alexander Fasting. I don't know an awful lot about his time there as I don't like to ask him about it - I have heard stories that aren't very nice. When he left he joined the Merchant Navy. He has recently celebrated his 87th birthday. I would love to hear from anyone who remembers him.
ReplyDeleteme and my sister where in fazakerley home in 1964. our mum had gone to hospital to have our sister, we hated it, i was 4 years old and my sister was 3, we were made to sleep in baby cots, we cant remember any other children being there, every time i smell germoline cream today it always reminds me of that horrible time we were in fazakerley, our names were maria and sandra finnegan
ReplyDeleteTo all who are interested in FCH. There is an annual Reunion to be held at "The Acorn Centre" on the FCH site on Saturday 25th June.
ReplyDeleteThe event is open from 12:00 noon to 8:00 p.m. and refreshments are available.
As well as the usual attendees of ex-residents and their families, the Care Leavers Association will have a stand which will have information on getting access to records.
I have signed in as "Anonymous" as I could not get recognition of my details on the site. You can get in touch with me by email at eddie@schleising.net
Hello all, my name is Owen Moran a local of Fazakerley. A number of organisations have come together to design and deliver a major project for next year. We are looking for people to share their experiences and stories of the Cottage Homes, good bad whatever. We are looking to make it into a big arts project and we need your help. If you would like to find out more then please contact me by email: owen.moran@talk21.com or tel: Fazakerley community Federation on 0151 523 1073. This will be a fantastic project for the future.
ReplyDeleteThank you
Owen Moran
My dad and his siblings went to the cottage homes he was in there till he was about 16 years old he now hates mothes because when tou had to go the toilet of a night it was full of them his name is thomas mo (TOMMY)
ReplyDeleteto anonymous july 18th 2010 i think i remember you if you where in cottage no 8 mrs van zyl was the house mother my name is joan worthington in those days my email is joanvdijk@gmail.com would like to write to you if you feel like making contact if i am correct your brother david had blonde curly hair
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Rob Ainsworth
Elsie Ashcroft was a house mother at the Fazakerley Cottage Homes. She died while she was in charge of a group of children on a trip to New Brighton. One of the children fell into the water, and then Elsie Ashcroft jumped in. I heard that her clothes formed air traps and she kept afloat for sufficient time for the child to be taken from the water. Elsie herself drowned. The date would have been summer, of 1949 or thereabouts. I know this would be true because many of us from the Cottage homes were away on holiday with the school (Barlow's Lane). We were on a camping holiday on the Isle of Man when we heard the news. A lad named Joe Matthews was particularly upset when he heard the news.
ReplyDeleteHe is the subject of another question. Can anyone provide details of this? It must have been reported in the local newspapers at the time.
Regards,
Edward Schleising.
I have had notification today that Joe Matthews, who was in the cottage homes with me until about 1951, has died. He was a resident of
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St. Joseph's House
129 Malden Road
London, NW5 4HS
Tel: 020 7485 3602
The Simon Community is trying to find out if he has any relatives still alive. If any relative gets in touch with them, they may be able to make the funeral arrangements to suit the relative.
Regards,
Edward Schleising.
would like to make contact with the family of david micheal sandra and shela i knew you all in cottage number eight you must remember george worthington he wore those awful thick glasses with the wire around the ears he used to went the bed evrey night and had his face rubbed in the went sheets each morning he was made to wash them befor he ate his breckfast poor boy david took me on a saterdays after we had been to the rio pictures to see his little sister at the glass house needless to say when you leave to go home your so excited you forget about the ones you left behind did you all go to holy name school there was a young man who had grown up there and was living out side cottage no 8 tall dark haired guy used to call me my fair lady as i was always singing the songs from the movie if you or any one who knows you reads this please pass it on.
ReplyDeletejoan van dijk nee worthington joanvdijk@gmail.com
I was at the FCH as a child with my brother Richard and my sister Geraldine. I was in cottage no 9 Richard in no 21 and Geraldine in no 12. I arrived at the FCH about 1944. I am trying to obtain the records of my stay at the FCH and also locate any of my old friends that remember me. Please email me vk2fdig@gmail.com if you may be able to assist.
ReplyDeleteBest Regards
Frank Colin Diggle
AUSTRALIA
i was in fch 1953/1957 in and out several times fostered out then back again.
ReplyDeleteanyone remember going to T J HUGHES for you school uniforms also the trips to the isle of man
also at christmas the toys donated by the grand people of liverpool.
omly person that i can remember is micheal gas or gash and his brother
plenty of memories
jack mcgee
or my sunday name john
hi its me again just thing i thought you might like if you go onto google street maps you can virtually drive into f c h i did it and could not stop crying brings back memories hope this is helpful to everyone
ReplyDeletehi is there anyway I can look to see when my aunt stayed at the home it was around the 1920,s, her name was Mary Lowe , I appreciate its a long shot but like to know were I could write
ReplyDeleteregards
glyn roberts
glyn1938@gmail.com
Hi, I am writing a novel based on my father in laws life. Robert aged 10 was in FCH in 1908 with his brother Albert aged 14. I would love some information about the home during this period. Robert said he played in a band. Albert was transferred to Walton Workhouse when he was 15. Later Robert was asked if he would like to go to South Africa, Canada or down the mines. He chose the mines and was moved to Yorkshire. The official note says he absconded with no mention of his going to the mines but he did admit to absconding from the mines with a little Welsh boy.
ReplyDeleteWe cannot offer any direct knowledge of the FCH in the years you mention, but the Cottage Homes still exists and it would be well worth a visit if you can make it. You would be able to take photographs and look around at the outside of the buildings.
ReplyDeleteIf you would like to meet people who were actually resident in the FCH then perhaps you would like to attend our next annual reunion which is to be held on Saturday, 16th June 2012. Start time is normally 12:00 noon and end time is about 20:00.
There is the opportunity of having a tour of one of the cottages which would certainly give you a feel for how life was at any period in the Homes. If you would like more information, please contact me by email at eddie@schleising.net.
Regards,
Eddie Schleising.
Hi, my father David Wengreen spent all of his childhood days at F.C.H. from 1933 to 1947, then he was sent to a Working boy's home in Liverpool until he found work and a place to live. The Gardener, Bill Cooke at F.C.H and his wife took him in to live with them until he joined the army. When my mum went to the home for my father's birth certificate to get married, the matron asked is it William or David as there were two brothers, William was the oldest. My mother was shocked! My dad died in 2006 but told me that he didn't know that he had a brother. On looking at death records, it would appear that William was born in 1931 and died in 1932! Maybe that is why my father didn't know anything about him. My father's mother used to visit him for the first few years of his life bringing him sweets, a man would stand in the background, eventually the visiting stopped. My dad's side of the family is a bit of a mystery but I do know that his mother Mather Christina Wengren (Wengreen) lived in Anfield up until her death although I never met her but he did!
ReplyDeleteMy dad only spoke about his time at the home a couple of years before he died, he told me that he and a friend would escape from the home at least once a week to a nearby farm house, the farmer's wife would feed them before calling the police to take them back to the home. He even climbed on to the room of the clock tower to escape. He told me some heart breaking stories about his time at the home! Maybe that is why he never spoke about his past and kept his life a secret!
There is an official site of the fazakerley Cottage Homes at www.fcha-liverpool.co.uk Check it out
ReplyDeleteHello,
ReplyDeleteMy grandmother was a resident at cottage homes somewhere between 1920 and 1936. her name was Ellen Owen - although she liked to be called Nell. She had bright auburn hair. She was very friendly with another orphon called 'Madge'. apparently they were in the same house together. My nan passed away in 2001. She rarely spoke about her childhood, I have a vague memory of her saying that she did not see the outside world until she was 5 and that she was made to clean peoples shoes? I am wondering whether she was in a work house for some of her childhood. She did get fostered by a plymouth bretheran family, this was not a happy time for her, she was used as a slave and beaten by the parents. She went on to join the RAF.
Does anyone have any memories of my grandmother? If you do please get in touch. Many thanks. My email address is sharon.rylance@btinternet.com
hello i have just today found out that my dad and his brother and two sisters were sent to this home in 1933 when there mother died im looking for some of my dads background as he never spoke about his childhood/past his name was john lee .
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I too was fazakerley cottage home. I was there in about 1952/1855. I don't think that any one would remember me because I didn't play with the other children. I was always placed at the front of the houses on my little trike and I'd ride up and down the pavement until they took me back in.Sometimes, I'd sit at the gates and watch the people going by. The old battle axe who looked after hated me doing that because it ment that she had to come and get me, the house I was in was about half way down on the right as you go through the gates.
ReplyDeleteI really, really am so touched by some of the accounts on here. I just wished that we could know how these experiences affected the incumbents of this institution in the long-term. There must be a very moving collection of stories still waiting to be documented?
ReplyDeleteMy heart goes out to you all.
hello my dad stayed at the children's home from around 1937 to he was 13 his name is peter mckenna but was also known as peter spencer juat wanted to find out if anyone knew my dad would love to know more about my dads childhood email me markmckenna@hotmail.co.uk
ReplyDeleteI remember a man called Conrad from the Cottage Homes who would always be listening to his transistor radio as he walked along Longmoor Lane.
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